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#EVNow - adoption of EVs is too slow

Suggested by Jeremy Burton almost 3 years ago

#EVNow - a marketplace for EVs to accelerate the adoption (Carvana/Vroom/Shift exclusively for EVs)

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FK
over 1 year ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

BX
almost 2 years ago

Senior Software Engineer at Snap @ Snap

This thread has been silent. Is there still any interest? I'm a mobile developer and I'm exploring some car app ides.

Jeremy Burton core team
almost 2 years ago

CEO | Founder | Managing Partner @ Platform Venture Studio

I think the question is whether there is enough different about EVs that a new marketplace is justified. Carvana, Shift, Vroom, etc would be hard to catch and already have good EV volume so there would need to be something compellingly different about a new entrant.

FK
over 2 years ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

The build back better bill has a ton of incentives for EV's. Going to supercharge the new car market.

Jeremy Burton core team
over 2 years ago

CEO | Founder | Managing Partner @ Platform Venture Studio

Hopefully, we can address the chip shortage and other supply chain woes quickly.

FK
over 2 years ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

Jeremy Burton core team
over 2 years ago

CEO | Founder | Managing Partner @ Platform Venture Studio

Good find - thanks. Interesting they're focusing on fleet adoption - makes sense.

FK
over 2 years ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

Kind of a sunrun for EV's.

DB
over 2 years ago

Product, Operations and Strategy Leader -- Focusing on Solving Problems and Scaling Enterprises with a customer-centric view @ Product and Strategy/Ops Leader

There is an increased focus on specialized sites, especially when looking at things like cars & bids versus bringatrailer and the MB specific auction site. Buying a used EV has not just the buying factors and education needed as listed above but also has interesting questions like how much battery capacity there is and also how they differentiate from one another. This is an interesting concept, but with the price of used cars through the roof these days I wonder if there is something more appealing than the $5 listing cost which FB marketplace has that has disrupted a lot of the legacy sites.

Jeremy Burton core team
over 2 years ago

CEO | Founder | Managing Partner @ Platform Venture Studio

FK
over 2 years ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

Penetration is so low while tech is moving quickly. Could a marketplace launched now have sufficient inventory of used EV's that are not obsolete?

FK
almost 3 years ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

#evnow: look at ridepanda.

Jeremy Burton core team
almost 3 years ago

CEO | Founder | Managing Partner @ Platform Venture Studio

Thanks, @Francis Kim I wonder if they plan to get into cars.

FK
almost 3 years ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

I don't think so. The explosion of electric vehicles in the micromobility space requires that someone act as a filter/tastemaker/authority, so it makes sense they continue to focus there.


Are you suggesting a marketplace for new or used cars?

Jeremy Burton core team
almost 3 years ago

CEO | Founder | Managing Partner @ Platform Venture Studio

I was thinking about used vehicles now that sufficient numbers of used EVs will be coming onto the market.

I think new cars sales are increasingly being made direct to consumer (like Tesla).

FK
almost 3 years ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

Cool. That's the route that makes more sense. Not clear to me how an EV marketplace isn't just a feature of (or really the future of) the other used car marketplaces, but happy to be proven wrong.

FK
almost 3 years ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

The sale does have a nice margin. I'm not sure if the marketplaces do.

Jeremy Burton core team
almost 3 years ago

CEO | Founder | Managing Partner @ Platform Venture Studio

@Francis Kim - fair but the vehicle sale has a nice margin :-)

FK
almost 3 years ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

Yeah, those are all questions I had to wrestle with. I think it would be great to have all of this in one place with a service provider who could handle everything for me. If there is a compelling service here, I have to imagine that you could put it together without also having to build a vehicle marketplace. You could use the marketplaces as lead gen (or vice versa).

Jeremy Burton core team
almost 3 years ago

CEO | Founder | Managing Partner @ Platform Venture Studio

@Francis Kim - I think you and I are quite adept but I suspect the "early majority" and "late majority" are not.

I think there's a lot of help and education needed around:

  • can I charge it at home?
  • how long does it take to charge at home?
  • can I use my existing dryer circuit/socket?
  • the plug on my dryer circuit is different to the one on the charger that came with the car - what do I do?
  • do I need new electrical work done?
  • can I use my dryer and charge the car at the same time?
  • how much will that work cost?
  • I rent / live in an apartment - what can I do? What do I need to ask the landlord to do?
  • are there tax incentives / rebates for installing the charger
  • who will do a good job? how can I find someone?
  • do I need to take a charger with me?
  • does it come with a charger?
  • what is the real world range?
  • how long will the battery last before needing replacing?


I think these questions and anxieties put off a lot of people who are not technical problem solvers themselves.

When you buy a new EV, a lot of that can perhaps be answered at the dealer. Although in my experience, they are also not particularly well educated on EVs (I'm looking at you, Audi).

Additionally, there is the bigger move that people want to make of going fully-green. They want to get an EV but perhaps know that the electricity in their area is generated with non-renewables. So they want to go solar at the same time. Tesla has that vertically integrated but other brands do not.

For used EVs, there is just no current mechanism to provide this kind of help and advice.

FK
almost 3 years ago

Advisor, Product Strategy @ Various Startups

JB, what about charging in particular do you think is hard for consumers to wrap their heads around? I'm not disagreeing with you. This is actually top of mind for me now as I'm considering an EV purchase soon, and I'm also having electrical work done to my garage. What are the specific pain points that you see?

Jeremy Burton core team
almost 3 years ago

CEO | Founder | Managing Partner @ Platform Venture Studio

You may be right. My thought is there are issues around EV adoption that don't exist with internal combustion engine cars. Particularly, charging.

Is there a play to take what Tesla does in selling solar, power wall, charges, etc as well as cars and doing the same but for any EV brand?

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